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Ep 654: Using AI to turn Conversations into Revenue: A leader’s guide
Turning calls to revenue with AI, China uses Claude in cyberattacks, ChatGPT releases Group Chats,Google releases Deep Research in NotebookLM
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🎙 Daily Podcast Episode: Your meetings aren’t just chatter anymore, they’re valuable data you need to turn into revenue with AI. Find out more in today’s show and give it a watch/listen.
🕵️♂️ Fresh Finds: OpenAI releases prompt cookbook for GPT-51., AI Holiday shopping helper, Copilot on Samsung TVs and more. Read on for Fresh Finds.
🗞 Byte Sized Daily AI News: China uses Claude in cyberattacks, ChatGPT releases Group Chats,Google releases Deep Research in NotebookLM and more Read on for Byte Sized News.
🧠 Learn & Leveraging AI: How can you shift your company’s mindsets on calls on meetings? We break it down with an industry vet. Keep reading for that!
↩️ Don’t miss out: OpenAI releases GPT-5.1, Microsoft unveils new Datacenter, Pope urges against AI and more Check it here!
Ep 654: Using AI to turn Conversations into Revenue: A leader’s guide
Everyone knows AI needs your data to truly work.
But, what about your company's reasoning? 🤔
Buried beneath the modes and models, features and agents is something so fundamental that we almost always overlook it: the friggin gold that is your company's conversations.
It's your expertise. Your secret sauce. Your decision making. Your competitive advantage.
This is what you do about it.
Using AI to turn conversations into revenue: A leader’s guide -- An Everyday AI chat with Dialpad's Jim Palmer and Jordan Wilson
Also on the pod today:
• Turn calls into business gold 💰
• Building in-house language models 🧠
• Meeting notes by AI 📝
It’ll be worth your 35 minutes:
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Here’s our favorite AI finds from across the web:
New AI Tool Spotlight – MyLens turns Youtube videos into AI timelines, Scraib rewrites text in seconds, in any app on your Mac, SIMA 2 is An Agent that Plays, Reasons, and Learns With You in Virtual 3D Worlds
AI Holiday Shopping — Shop in chat, have Google call stores for stock, even auto-buy when prices drop. Curious how Gemini makes holiday shopping painless?
AI Politics — Claude claims top-tier political even-handedness — and opens its test suite.
Copilot on TVs — Your TV just gained a free, voice-driven AI companion — see how it works
Prompting — OpenAI released a prompting cookbook for GPT-5.1
Google Drive Audio Overview — Listen to any PDF in Drive — Gemini turns long docs into 2–10 minute audio summaries.
AI In Creativity — New slide creating features could be rolling out soon.
Claude helping Maryland — AI quietly rewires Maryland’s benefits—and could reshape state services next
ChatGPT for Businesses — GPT‑5.1 is faster with adaptive and “no reasoning” modes, plus 24h prompt caching. Same pricing as GPT‑5.
Disney AI — Disney+ eyes AI-powered user creations, with IP safeguards promised.
AI Voice Cloning — Who owns your voice after you die — and who gets to sell it?
1. Google ties Deep Research to NotebookLM 🧐
Google just rolled out Deep Research inside NotebookLM, a timely upgrade that lets the tool quietly trawl hundreds of sites and compile a vetted, source-cited report. According to ZDNET, users can steer the process or let it run, then drop the finished report and its sources straight into a notebook for further analysis and content transformations.
The update widens inputs to include Google Sheets, Microsoft Word docs, PDFs, and Drive URLs, turning NotebookLM into a hub that synthesizes web findings with your own files
2. OpenAI tests ChatGPT group chats in select countries 🗣️
OpenAI is piloting group chats for ChatGPT in select regions including Japan, New Zealand, South Korea, and Taiwan, signaling a push to make the app feel more social right now. The feature is live for Free, Plus, and Team users on web and mobile, supports 1 to 20 participants, and brings GPT‑5.1 Auto with search, image generation, file uploads, and dictation into shared conversations while only counting AI replies toward usage limits.
OpenAI says private chats and personal memory stay private, group chats are invite-only, and under‑18 users get added safeguards and parental controls.
3. xAI funding rumors spark backlash from Musk 🤑
CNBC reports that xAI is seeking a fresh $15 billion, a claim Elon Musk publicly labeled “False,” underscoring the frenzy and confusion around mega-rounds fueling today’s AI arms race.
The reported raise would lift a previously flagged $10 billion round to $15 billion at a $200 billion valuation, with much of the cash aimed at GPUs as rivals like Anthropic and OpenAI notch sky high valuations and massive war chests.
4. Chinese state-backed hackers reportedly used Claude to turbocharge September cyberattacks ⚠️
Anthropic says a Chinese government-sponsored group leveraged its Claude model to automate roughly 80% to 90% of about 30 attacks in September, according to the Wall Street Journal.
The company described a near push-button workflow with limited human oversight, and confirmed sensitive data was stolen from four victims while declining to name targets. Google recently reported Russian actors using large-language models to help generate malware commands, underscoring how AI is quickly becoming a force multiplier in cyber operations.
5. Pentagon Tests OpenAI’s Air-Gapped Models 🫡
In a notable shift this week, the Pentagon is trialing OpenAI’s first open-weight models in years on air-gapped systems, signaling rising demand for AI that runs without the internet. According to WIRED, the gpt-oss-120b and gpt-oss-20b releases give defense teams new local options, though early tests show they lag leading rivals on multilingual and multimodal tasks.
Contractors say customization and control are the draw, with modified versions already slated for Army and Air Force testing despite mixed performance.
🦾How You Can Leverage:
Who completes post-call satisfaction surveys?
Furious people.
That's it. Everyone else hangs up immediately because they have meetings, deadlines, actual work. Your customer satisfaction data systematically excludes the bulk of customers who had neutral or positive experiences.
So if you're measuring something like this, you’re measuring rage, not satisfaction.
Jim Palmer, Chief AI Officer at Dialpad, explained why this destroys strategy. You think you're understanding customer sentiment. Wrong. You're only capturing the most negative experiences while the silent majority never appears in your data.
Meanwhile, the richest intelligence your company generates vanishes the moment every sales call or team meeting ens.
Nobody's treating conversations like the legit data goldmine they actually are. Companies are out hunting exotic new data sources while their actual competitive advantage evaporates daily into thin air.
So on today's episode, we broke down why voice is the last offline data set worth billions, how to measure customer sentiment without systematic bias, and why responsible automation means breaking your AI before customers do it for you.
Companies ignoring this make million-dollar strategic decisions on fundamentally flawed data. Let’s get it.
Your CRM is optimized.
Spreadsheets clean. Dashboards beautiful.
Cool. That's baseline now.
Jim explained what companies miss. The richest data you generate disappears after every customer call, sales conversation, internal meeting. He described this as bringing "the last offline data set online."
While competitors hunt for exotic data sources, your competitive advantage dissolves into nothing.
Because nobody captures it.
Voice conversations contain patterns structured databases never reveal. Humans communicate differently than they fill out forms. Way differently.
The strategic opportunity runs deeper than just recording calls.
Business conversations repeat constantly. Same customer questions emerge. Sales objections follow predictable patterns. Support problems cluster identically.
That repetition is gold.
When you fine-tune AI specifically for YOUR business context instead of using general systems, accuracy explodes. Jim shared how Dialpad's team published peer-reviewed papers on this. A specialized small language model trained on your actual business conversations absolutely crushes a giant general model trying to handle every possible scenario across every industry.
Try This: Map where substantive conversations happen at your company. Sales calls, customer support, strategy meetings, training sessions. Calculate what percentage you're capturing versus letting vanish forever. Below twenty percent? You're watching competitive intelligence evaporate while competitors build models trained on your industry's specific language patterns that compound every single quarter.
Picture this.
Support call ends. Customer hears the request.
"Would you like to stay on two more minutes for our satisfaction survey?"
Most people hang up instantly. They got their answer. They're done. They have work.
Who stays?
The furious ones.
Jim described this perfectly as "horribly biased." Only customers angry enough to invest two more minutes pressing buttons actually respond. Everyone else with neutral or positive experiences vanishes from your data immediately.
Think about what this means.
You're making million-dollar decisions about customer experience improvements based on a sample that systematically excludes ninety-five percent of customers who weren't enraged. You're prioritizing product changes for your angriest users while the silent majority stays invisible.
That's catastrophic for strategy.
Jim explained how AI CSAT changes everything. Generate satisfaction scores on every single call automatically. No survey. No bias. Just actual sentiment across one hundred percent of interactions.
The silent majority finally shows up.
This reveals problems before they metastasize. It spots opportunities competitors miss because their metrics only capture emotional extremes.
When your customer satisfaction data excludes most customers, you're flying blind while thinking you see perfectly.
Try This:
Pull your survey response rates. Compare them against total customer interaction volume. Five percent response rate? You're optimizing your entire customer experience strategy based on systematically biased data excluding everyone who wasn't angry enough to stay on the line. That gap represents flawed strategic decisions you're making right now.
3. Break Your AI Before Customers Do ⚡
Most companies test once.
Ship.
The they wait ….. and….
Disaster.
Jim emphasized red teaming. Adversarial testing where you actively try to break your AI before customers discover failures in production.
This isn't pessimism.
It's responsible automation.
You need to find edge cases where systems confidently generate wrong outputs while sounding completely authoritative. Because those edge cases WILL happen. Only question is whether you discover them during internal testing or after customer-facing catastrophes.
Companies avoiding AI disasters aren't the ones with perfect technology. They invested in evaluation frameworks first.
Jim explained how Dialpad doesn't run one smoke test and ship. They build test cases. Use other models to evaluate their models. Systematically identify where systems work versus where they fail spectacularly.
But here's what most people miss. Red teaming isn't just defensive. When you systematically test where AI fails, you simultaneously discover where it works exceptionally well.
Same process. Dual benefit.
The adversarial testing preventing disasters also reveals automation opportunities you never considered because you understand capabilities and limitations with precision.
Try This:
Spend one hour actively breaking your current AI implementations. Real adversarial testing with edge cases, unusual input combinations, scenarios mixing multiple variables unexpectedly. Document every failure mode. Find systems confidently generating incorrect information while sounding authoritative? You just identified production disasters waiting to happen.







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